Joe Montaldo, co-founder and director for the International Community for Alien Research (ICAR), spoke about disclosure issues, abductees, and the alien agenda. Montaldo said his organization has compiled 12500 “certified” abduction cases. From those cases, Montaldo has come to believe that the alien races doing the abductions have “agendas with sub agendas with more sub agendas,” involving breeding programs, testing of psi abilities, and emotional/physical stress. Montaldo also shared his theory about the Roswell incident, suggesting that the Grays were aboard the craft but humans were flying it at the time of the crash.